To Kill a Martingale (Part 3 of 3)

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Absolute nonsense.

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The seeds of spurious narratives are planted daily, all around you.

Often times the common fallacies are dressed in hyperbole and coming from accounts you know by default to dismiss as tourists or soured gamblers.

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We know very well to filter out the noise from the ZeroHedge comments section.

But what happens when the seeds are planted by those you view authoritatively?

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On September 7th, 2025 Brent Kochuba of SpotGamma penned the following:

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"Seek and Destroy"

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Say what you want about market makers— the truth is we are all held to strict standards.

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Half the things you assume to be "business as usual" are enough to get you U5'ed (terminated), automatically. 

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I remember once buying futures when I had to sell them.

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We call that a "Texas Hedge."

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Honest mistake, easy enough to correct (albeit costly & stressful).

Minutes later... a message from compliance:

"Please reply to document the series of trades in assets [...] between times [...]"

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This was an internal standard- it seemed a bit silly to me at the time.

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But you know what's expensive?

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Regulatory inquiries.

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There's no "boogey-man" out there conspiring to take out your stops.

Liquidity providers capture a small fraction of your bid-ask for the honor of taking the other side of your trade.

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We don't really care if you win or lose, if we're managing our book well.

In fact, we can both win- because we're hedging (you probably aren't).

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The value of the trade in our book to us, when all is said and done, goes beyond the settlement PNL and includes things like "gamma scalping" attribution, beyond the scope of this note.

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We don't "want you to lose"

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Sure, we're your counterparty— but this isn't zero-sum.

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We aren't playing the same game.

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Of Cope & Clickbait

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It's easy to buy into the lie.

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It sounds logical— and it sells.

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It pulls at that part of our brain that just wants to believe it's not our fault, that the game is rigged— that an omniscient foe is lurking around every corner, conspiring to rob us of the wins we deserve.

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But it's a lie.

Even if you believe it- you know it's a lie.

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If you really believed it, you'd have stopped playing long ago.

Sorry, you're cornered on this one. 

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The truth sets you free.

...but it's okay.


We've all made that mistake once or twice.

Successful traders course correct, because of one key thing.

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You won't succeed as a trader with an external locus of control.

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The Cold Hard Truth

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Start with a trade that's bad from the start.

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First, let's define bad.

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For the final Martingale series to succeed, the premium collected on the last trade would have to cover its losses and pay back one bet.

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Basic.

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On December 23rd, the cumulative losses from the trackable trades were approximately $22m.

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Given the final trade size of ~110,000, to cover an entire $22m in losses PLUS one bet, the group would have to collect around $2.10 — maybe $2.20 after accounting for fees.

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If your strategy requires that price to be compliant with its own logic, then selling below that price would be suboptimal— to put it lightly.

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After all, what good is your fancy matrix, if you sell all 110k at 1.75, "win" your series with a good settlement, and still come up $3 or 4 million in the red for the series?

—that's not how a Martingale's supposed to work.

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A "bad bet" is one which doesn't pay you enough when you win, to justify playing in the first place.

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By this logic, the bet was bad.

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there's just no escaping the math of the problem.

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How bad was it?

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In the prior writeup I highlighted the shortfall.

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David's final "bet" was atrocious.

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The SPXW 12/24/25 6885-6890 / 6920-6925 Iron Condor was sold at an average price of ~$1.45.

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Even if your math is right on the ODDS of settling inside your structure, your bet is so mispriced that you have to get extraordinarily lucky— JUST TO HAVE A CHANCE TO FIX IT LATER.

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Even a WIN would be a loss— because your series would still be DOWN over $7 million.

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What does it mean if the final bet—

the one that's supposed to pay you back all of your losses PLUS ONE BET

Leaves you down 7 bets at the end of your series?

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It can only mean one thing

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No, Captain Condor wasn't "targeted."

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There's no "Seek-and-Destroy" algo.

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In fact, that hyperbole without verification would cost most registered professionals a license, in addition to their credibility.

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"but even your data shows FIRMS on the other side."

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You like firms?

Name all the firms.

(no, really)

Who are they?

What are their interests?

Are they market makers? Broker Dealers? Both?

Why might a market maker have inventory in a firm account?

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I won't pretend to speak for everyone. But I was a partner at a firm in this business and did heavy index volume— and I don't mean tiny puts for numbers.

I routinely traded and helped manage very large positions. I enjoyed trading big enough to make the team uncomfortable when I thought the edge was right.

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"this trade is so good we'd be fools not to take it all down"

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So you're looking at this offer and by any measure you should buy it.

1.45 offer to a 1.65 theo and vol is already at the 0th percentile with the index at ATH into a low liquidity day.

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How many do you buy?

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Careful.

Think deeply here before you answer

Remember, you're a market maker.

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At this price, you want to trade as many as you can.

But "as many as you can" is subject to constraints that are much like those a casino navigates.

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After all, if you take on all 110k iron condors- you're not really a market maker tomorrow.

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You're a prop desk— a hedge fund / whatever you want to call it, your market making business is suddenly a sideshow to the main event.

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This is a problem.

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Beyond a certain size, your desk isn't equipped to integrate into its business-as-usual.

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You're not "targeting the customer"

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The customer needs your bid to fill the order.

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You're not "targeting the customer" when you make logical accommodations for the trade.

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Maybe you need to house the trade in another account because you don't want this inventory to be hedged the same way. 

I used to do this when I was making markets— not for any nefarious reason... I just wanted oversight on a particular trade which I knew was more "prop trade" than market making, within the context of our desk. 

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If we trade something that's important to hold against something downstream- I don't want to "accidentally trade out of it prematurely."

If we are too big on certain strikes, maybe I don't want my hedging model auto-calibrating the vol slide to the inventory if it's pushing the limits of what's logical for the model.

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These are accommodations to enable managing the other side.

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Because when the trade is too big, it's no longer a trade— it's a position.

And if your PNL is entirely down to positional performance- you're not market making, period.

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No matter how you look at it

—nobody "targeted" the last condor, it was free money.

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 ♪ ♫ ...it's the MOST . . . illiquid time OF THE YEAR... ♫ ♪

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What Went Wrong?

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I planned to spend most of this email impressing you.

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Originally, I was going to talk about when and where I'd seen strategies go wrong in the past.

200k Iron Condors wreaked havoc on holiday markets in 2018.

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I was going to talk about the risk of outsizing your market.

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You might get away with it for a while— but it's not a coincidence these problems come to a head when liquidity disappears.

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I was going to talk about local gamma. 

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Vol paths. Distorted surfaces. Hedging constraints.

But the truth is — we don't even need to go there.

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The buck stopped with the bettor,

—and his unbelievably. bad. bet.

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@EricSte83854527

I am having success with the "strongest afternoon" signal. I have been using flys and also selling CCS above the SAFN. Not sure why it works, but it does. Friday, a 75/70/65 fly paid .65 and settled for 4.16. I am trying to create a rule-based trade for the morning strongest line. Results for the morning have been profitable. For the afternoon trades, I am 9 wins and 2 losses. This is definitely worth the price. I am fortunate to be trading a larger account, so the cost is just a few basis points. If you do take the trial, go down the rabbit hole and review all of the EOD screenshots that are in the chat channel.

davidolson Mj

so thankful for the community that you created, because it’s such a strong add to day trading, i could just dreamed about. i'm still learning and taking my time to improve the knowledge i had before, but the potential is enormous. thank you, sir.

ate dz

Hey gang, you got me. I tried to go a few hours without you all after my trial ended, and, well, I just couldn't do it. I felt like I was flying blind. It's a pleasure to be back.

HMB M ToeL en

I really appreciate how many opportunities this RTM edge gives us.

PC im Pear

This is a godsend on limited time so far. Not trying to put the cart before the horse, but wow. It feels like magic, doesn't it? I have never been much of a scalper with futures and try to catch/ride a trend, but this is cheating.

PUES SCLC ae.

I will just say that this is my single best futures resource ever.

Spxy&iKnowit A.

@VolSignals you have been posting solid gold the past 24 hours. Thank you for this. Everyone interested in understanding option flows should be reading and learning. If you have a basic understanding of calculus and economics, he’s laying it all out for you. @vighnaraj2022 @TheRealStockMom @ivan_the2nd @astocks92

@tony_mansour

I need to do the mentorship ASAP. Things are clicking well, and the more I listen to the morning calls, the more it makes sense. But I really want to thoroughly understand. The more I know, the more I know I don't know and need to know.

@crackerwcheese

You are the best thing that has happened to me this year. Your guidance on Discord has kept me positive and profitable a lot during this downturn. Your mentorship and RTM room are blessings that have happened to me this year. Thank you and Trading for being so humble!

@ &np102023

RTM stupid cheap for what it provides. Whole VS suite for that matter. |dare anyone to find more actionable data and insight.

@EricSte83854527

I am having success with the "strongest afternoon" signal. I have been using flys and also selling CCS above the SAFN. Not sure why it works, but it does. Friday, a 75/70/65 fly paid .65, and it settled for 4.16. I am trying to create a rule-based trade for the morning's strongest line. Results for the morning have been profitable. For the afternoon trades, I have 9 wins and 2 losses. This is definitely worth the price. I am fortunate to be trading a larger account, so the cost is just a few basis points. If you do take the trial, go down the rabbit hole and review all of the EOD screenshots that are in the chat channel.

davidolson Mj

I'm so thankful for the community you created, because it's such a strong addition to day trading, I could have only dreamed about it. I'm still learning and taking my time to improve the knowledge I had before, but the potential is enormous. Thank you, sir.

ate dz

Hey gang, you got me. I tried to go a few hours without you all after my trial ended, and, well, I just couldn't do it. I felt like I was flying blind. Pleasure to be back.

HMB M ToeL en

I really appreciate how many opportunities this RTM edge gives us.

PC im Pear

This is a godsend on limited time so far. Not trying to put the cart before the horse, but wow. It feels like magic, doesn't it? I've never been much of a scalper with futures and try to catch/ride a trend, but this is cheating.

PUES SCLC ae.

I will just say that this is my single best futures resource ever.

Spxy&iKnowit A.

@VolSignals, you have been posting solid gold the past 24 hours. Thank you for this. Everyone interested in understanding option flows should be reading and learning. If you have a basic understanding of calculus and economics, he's laying it all out for you. @vighnaraj2022 @TheRealStockMom @ivan_the2nd @astocks92

@tony_mansour

I need to do the mentorship ASAP. Things are clicking well, and the more I listen to the morning calls, the more it makes sense. But I really want to thoroughly understand. The more I know, the more I know I don't know and need to know.

@crackerwcheese

You are the best thing happened to me this year. Your guidance on discord has kept me positive in profit a lot during this down turn. Your mentorship and RTM room are blessings that happened to me this year. Thank you and Trading closed for being so humble!

@ &np102023

RTM stupid cheap for what it provides. Whole VS suite for that matter. I dare anyone to find more actionable data and insight.

@EricSte83854527

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@davidolson M Prec eal

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Ts Sh

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tater nie

I have seriously learned so much in this past month of being in this Discord; it's actually insane. Thank you.

Jared A

You guys are the best. You both helped me to close my long SPX puts in the morning with $500k. Love you guys!

NOx Esc

Dude! I had a dream last night. I was in a home with friends, and it was some kind of special night where demons and monsters appeared. We had to prepare for it. It was a 'survive until dawn' type of setting, with an emphasis that those demons or monsters were controlling your brain with hallucinations, not just ripping you apart.

Egor Bezel

Just wanted to say thank you again for the slides. I have no clue about math, but as the days of education go on, I have much more confidence daily. 'How the f*** are we going down STILL?'—now I get it. (Same for the upside.) Have a great day, everyone.

VietoriaX

I've got to flex here... I just hit up 100k. Well done, @Trading Closed and @VolSignals.com. That's a great win for me. Thanks... I was a long-term winning day trader, but this RTM has helped me so much to go to the next level.

Scotty J

I've learned more in one week here than 3 years of technical analysis

Its gross

the VIP monthly is a steal. get in now before @VolSignals.com come's to his senses and raises the price

[AN

I've been here since December. It amazes me daily how good this is.

@davidolson M Prec eal

Amazing day. You dudes are next level. My mind is blown.

Ts Sh

I'm now joining everything with these boys. The real deal.

tater nie

I have seriously learned so much in this past month of being in this Discord; it's actually insane. Thank you.

Jared A

You guys are the best. You both helped me to close my long SPX puts in the morning with $500k. Love you guys!

NOx Esc

Dude! I had a dream last night. I was in a home with friends, and it was some kind of special night where demons and monsters appeared. We had to prepare for it. It was a 'survive until dawn' type of setting, with an emphasis that those demons or monsters were controlling your brain with hallucinations, not just ripping you apart.

Egor Bezel

Just wanted to say thank you again for the slides. I have no clue about math, but as the days of education go on, I have much more confidence daily. 'How the f*** are we going down STILL?'—now I get it. (Same for the upside.) Have a great day, everyone.

VietoriaX

I've got to flex here... I just hit up 100k. Well done, @Trading Closed and @VolSignals.com. That's a great win for me. Thanks... I was a long-term winning day trader, but this RTM has helped me so much to go to the next level.

Scotty J

I've learned more in one week here than 3 years of technical analysis

Its gross

the VIP monthly is a steal. get in now before @VolSignals.com come's to his senses and raises the price

[AN

seriously though, thanks for this place. I learned so much in such a short time

Sirken

Your version of philanthropy...i know i am not alone in saying thank-you for doing this. It gives us keen retail guys an insight into a world we would never have known. Appreciate all you do

Chris Hancox

The bread crumbs are adding up with each call. Thanks for doing this.

Morecowwbell

I love this Discord. It's literally the one and only thing I've ever joined, and I did it explicitly because I found @VolSignals.com and recognized that he (1) knew his stuff inside and out, (2) could teach me something new, and (3) actually has market-making experience. I could tell, so I signed up.

Customer

And again, this kind of insight is why I love it here. The room is full of pros 'who were (or still are) there,' and we no longer have to guess or assume in many ways.

mos

This discord has been an unreal journey for me this year

Tory

then I found VS, and Carson eventually put up this Discord, and it was like

ScarletHark

And I'm INCREDIBLY grateful for all input here from everyone. Genius views and insight

Hans

It's all coming together for me. I am learning so much.

Customer

@VolSignals.com Vol just want to say how much | appreciate you and the effort and time you put into all this. The whole offering improves literally each day. Learning constantly, esp with how high-touch you are with questions and answers. Like today’s MM and putting moreonus on us to think and apply these teachings. Never had a dynamic like this where you essentially never plateau in your learning. Amazing.

I voce st 908

seriously though, thanks for this place. I learned so much in such a short time

Sirken

Your version of philanthropy...i know i am not alone in saying thank-you for doing this. It gives us keen retail guys an insight into a world we would never have known. Appreciate all you do

Chris Hancox

The bread crumbs are adding up with each call. Thanks for doing this.

Morecowwbell

I love this Discord. It's literally the one and only thing I've ever joined, and I did it explicitly because I found @VolSignals.com and recognized that he (1) knew his stuff inside and out, (2) could teach me something new, and (3) actually has market-making experience. I could tell, so I signed up.

Customer

And again, this kind of insight is why I love it here. The room is full of pros 'who were (or still are) there,' and we no longer have to guess or assume in many ways.

mos

This discord has been an unreal journey for me this year

Tory

then I found VS, and Carson eventually put up this Discord, and it was like

ScarletHark

And I'm INCREDIBLY grateful for all input here from everyone. Genius views and insight

Hans

It's all coming together for me. I am learning so much.

Customer

@VolSignals.com Vol just want to say how much | appreciate you and the effort and time you put into all this. The whole offering improves literally each day. Learning constantly, esp with how high-touch you are with questions and answers. Like today’s MM and putting moreonus on us to think and apply these teachings. Never had a dynamic like this where you essentially never plateau in your learning. Amazing.

I voce st 908

seriously though, thanks for this place. I learned so much in such a short time

Sirken

Your version of philanthropy...i know i am not alone in saying thank-you for doing this. It gives us keen retail guys an insight into a world we would never have known. Appreciate all you do

Chris Hancox

The bread crumbs are adding up with each call. Thanks for doing this.

Morecowwbell

I love this Discord. It's literally the one and only thing I've ever joined, and I did it explicitly because I found @VolSignals.com and recognized that he (1) knew his stuff inside and out, (2) could teach me something new, and (3) actually has market-making experience. I could tell, so I signed up.

Customer

And again, this kind of insight is why I love it here. The room is full of pros 'who were (or still are) there,' and we no longer have to guess or assume in many ways.

mos

This discord has been an unreal journey for me this year

Tory

then I found VS, and Carson eventually put up this Discord, and it was like

ScarletHark

And I'm INCREDIBLY grateful for all input here from everyone. Genius views and insight

Hans

It's all coming together for me. I am learning so much.

Customer

@VolSignals.com Vol just want to say how much | appreciate you and the effort and time you put into all this. The whole offering improves literally each day. Learning constantly, esp with how high-touch you are with questions and answers. Like today’s MM and putting moreonus on us to think and apply these teachings. Never had a dynamic like this where you essentially never plateau in your learning. Amazing.

I voce st 908

i appreciate everyones dedication in here to acutally learn. very rare in discords

badhombre

You make my brain hurt. For the life of me, I can not fathom how you keep all that knowledge straight in your head, AND also be able to quantify it (dumb down) for us normal people to attempt understanding, AND be able to apply that knowledge in real time to the current market dynamics to make money....

Jody

I am having success with the 'strongest afternoon' signal. I have been using flys and also selling CCS above the SAFN. Not sure why it works, but it does. Friday, I hit a 75/70/65 fly. It paid .65 and settled for 4.16. I am trying to create a rule-based trade for the morning strongest line. Results for the morning have been profitable. For the afternoon trades, I am 9 wins and 2 losses. This is definitely worth the price. I am fortunate to be trading a larger account, so the cost is just a few basis points. If you do take the trial, go down the rabbit hole and review all of the EOD screen shots that are in the chat channel.

davidolson Mj

@VolSignals you have been posting solid gold the past 24 hours. Thank you for this. Everyone interested in understanding option flows should be reading and learning. If you have a basic understanding of calculus and economics, he’s laying it all out for you. @vighnaraj2022 @TheRealStockMom @ivan_the2nd @astocks92

@tony_mansour

I've been here since December. It amazes me daily how good this is.

@davidolson M Prec eal

the VIP monthly is a steal. get in now before @VolSignals.com come's to his senses and raises the price

[AN

Your version of philanthropy...i know i am not alone in saying thank-you for doing this. It gives us keen retail guys an insight into a world we would never have known. Appreciate all you do

Chris Hancox

It's all coming together for me. I am learning so much.

Customer

l am having success with the "strongest afternoon" signal. | have been using flys and also selling CCS above the SAFN. Not sure why it works but it does. Friday hit a 75/70/65 fly. Paid .65, settled for 4.16. | am trying to create a rule based trade for the morning strongest line. Results for the morning have been profitable. The afternoon trades, | am 9 wins 2 losses. Definitely worth the price. | am fortunate to be trading a larger account so the cost is just a few basis points. If you do take the trial, go down the rabbit hole and review all of the EOD screen shots that are in the chat channel.

davidolson Mj

Amazing day. You dudes are next level. My mind is blown.

Ts Sh

i appreciate everyones dedication in here to acutally learn. very rare in discords

badhombre

You make my brain hurt. For the life of me, I can not fathom how you keep all that knowledge straight in your head, AND also be able to quantify it (dumb down) for us normal people to attempt understanding, AND be able to apply that knowledge in real time to the current market dynamics to make money....

Jody

lam having success with the "strongest afternoon" signal. | have been using flys and also selling CCS above the SAFN. Not sure why it works but it does. Friday hit a 75/70/65 fly. Paid .65, settled for 4.16. | am trying to create a rule based trade for themorning strongest line. Results for the morning have been profitable. The afternoon trades, | am 9 wins 2 losses. Definitely worth the price. | am fortunate to be trading a larger account so the cost is just a few basis points. If you do take the trial, godown the rabbit hole and review all of the EOD screen shots that are in the chat channel.

davidolson Mj

@VolSignals you have been posting solid gold the past 24 hours. Thankyou for this.Everyone interested in understanding option flows should be readingand learning. If you have a basic understanding of calculus andeconomics, he’s laying it all out for you.@vighnaraj2022 @TheRealStockMom @ivan_the2nd @astocks92

@tony_mansour

I've been here since December. It amazes me daily how good this is.

@davidolson M Prec eal

the VIP monthly is a steal. get in now before @VolSignals.com come's to his senses and raises the price

[AN

Your version of philanthropy...i know i am not alone in saying thank-you for doing this. It gives us keen retail guys an insight into a world we would never have known. Appreciate all you do

Chris Hancox

It's all coming together for me. I am learning so much.

Customer

I am having success with the 'strongest afternoon' signal. I have been using flys and also selling CCS above the SAFN. Not sure why it works, but it does. Friday, I hit a 75/70/65 fly. It paid .65 and settled for 4.16. I am trying to create a rule-based trade for the morning strongest line. Results for the morning have been profitable. For the afternoon trades, I am 9 wins and 2 losses. This is definitely worth the price. I am fortunate to be trading a larger account, so the cost is just a few basis points. If you do take the trial, go down the rabbit hole and review all of the EOD screen shots that are in the chat channel.

davidolson Mj

Amazing day. You dudes are next level. My mind is blown.

Ts Sh

i appreciate everyones dedication in here to acutally learn. very rare in discords

badhombre

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Chris Hancox

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Customer

lam having success with the "strongest afternoon" signal. | have been using flys and also selling CCS above the SAFN. Not sure why it works but it does. Friday hit a 75/70/65 fly. Paid .65, settled for 4.16. | am trying to create a rule based trade for themorning strongest line. Results for the morning have been profitable. The afternoon trades, | am 9 wins 2 losses. Definitely worth the price. | am fortunate to be trading a larger account so the cost is just a few basis points. If you do take the trial, godown the rabbit hole and review all of the EOD screen shots that are in the chat channel.

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I am having success with the 'strongest afternoon' signal. I have been using flys and also selling CCS above the SAFN. Not sure why it works, but it does. Friday, I hit a 75/70/65 fly. It paid .65 and settled for 4.16. I am trying to create a rule-based trade for the morning strongest line. Results for the morning have been profitable. For the afternoon trades, I am 9 wins and 2 losses. This is definitely worth the price. I am fortunate to be trading a larger account, so the cost is just a few basis points. If you do take the trial, go down the rabbit hole and review all of the EOD screen shots that are in the chat channel.

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@VolSignals you have been posting solid gold the past 24 hours. Thankyou for this.Everyone interested in understanding option flows should be readingand learning. If you have a basic understanding of calculus andeconomics, he’s laying it all out for you.@vighnaraj2022 @TheRealStockMom @ivan_the2nd @astocks92

@tony_mansour

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